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Author Topic:   Stop The Hatred Ouroboros
posted 09-15-2001 12:22 AM PT (US)
Flashpoint4 posted 09-15-2001 07:42 AM PT (US)
This countrys doors have been open to long!!! Ouroboros posted 09-15-2001 09:01 AM PT (US)
I disagree.
It's one thing to be able to defend a country.
It is quite another to have a country worth defending.
Let's not lose our sight of the latter while renewing our commitment to the former. Gladrial posted 09-15-2001 09:41 AM PT (US)
We have to all understand that Arab Americans are still Americans too. However, the government has a watch list of potential troublemakers here in our country on Visas that do need to be watched.
Gladrial posted 09-15-2001 09:41 AM PT (US)
May I edit that? Gladrial posted 09-15-2001 09:48 AM PT (US)
I agree that stronger background checks should be happening at our embassys where these Visas are given out. But I don't agree to closing our borders beyond this investigation period.
WE ARE AMERICA AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO HELP OUR FELLOW HUMANS AND WE WILL NOT CHANGE NOW!
The statue of Liberty was given to us by France to celebrate out liberty and she is an important symbol in America.
We must retain Liberty and Justice for all. Gladrial posted 09-15-2001 09:57 AM PT (US)
This is Ardra not Gladrial.
Do you know why we cannot effectively infiltrate these groups? We aren't Arabs.
Do you know why we need to detain, question, and glean information from those residing in America from the middle east? They are Arabs.
You can put a pretty face on our national diversity and say "please stop unjust hatred", but this is just the same as when we HAD TO, FOR REASONS OF SECURITY, intern japanese Americans in the 40s.
This conflict is based on not just national opponents, but has a very real racial element too. "They" are pretty much exclusively Arabic. This is not going to be a popular observation, but this conflict, again, is going to be a matter of race just as much as nationality.
Can any of you who are NOT of arabic descent see those who are plainly middle eastern and not view them with suspicion? We had better.
WE HAD BETTER!
For the battle is just as likely to be fought inside the continental USA, where they have already infiltrated and lived among us, than some eurasian setting.
The Arab you see next to you might not be the person you thought they were.
I'm sorry to have to think like this, but thinking like this prevents further tragedy.
Detain, question, round up, and intern them.
For those of you who disagree, I would suppose that you probably find the concept of quarantining those who are HIV+ abhorrent too. Well, what's YOUR solution then?
Ardra Evenstar
Patriot Ouroboros posted 09-15-2001 01:08 PM PT (US)

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You can put a pretty face on our national diversity and say "please stop unjust hatred", but this is just the same as when we HAD TO, FOR REASONS OF SECURITY, intern japanese Americans in the 40s.
That is the political/national security equivalent of using leeches in the medical profession to expel demons. And everyone knows it - especially those educated in such matters. Flashpoint4 posted 09-16-2001 08:12 AM PT (US)
Lets find some leeches then IM tired of america the weak oh no we cant step on any toes dont want to hurt any feelings boo hoo and damn them all things have to change something has to change these people were here over a year and i promise you there are more and most likely have been here a very long time and just waiting for that call lets make sure there not here when the call comes. Gladrial posted 09-16-2001 12:26 PM PT (US)
It is so sad...but it is true that if the American Arabs start a riff to happen in America by causing Chaos. They will be removed I assure you. This is even more so than in the 40's. In fact right now, in my opinion the rounding up has begun. Think about for a while. Gladrial posted 09-16-2001 12:33 PM PT (US)
What happens to one of us...happens to all of us. I do not want any American citizens to be rounded up for any reason other than a criminal one. But I do agree we should watch and detain the suspicious ones. That is what I meant by the rounding up has begun. Gladrial posted 09-17-2001 11:13 AM PT (US)
"New type of war"
We will get them with a different type of war. We have waged our intelligence against them. We have changed a few things tha really needed changing anyway. But as Americans our imaginations have never thought of such a scenario so we shouldn't feel bad for not knowing what evil people can contrive.
Smarter now...
In the future we go ahead as a smarter country. Now, we know what we must do. We must wipe out terrorism. You may not notice or see a thing on the surface for a while but the precise people who are involved will be found and we will give them some payback.
"Get them from the inside"
We cannot look upon all people as evil and so we must assume all people are good until proven otherwise. It is ashamed that such madmen can exist but the brainwashing has gone on for generations in these terrorist cells. We must infiltrate them from the inside. We have to start to make Bin Laden wonder who he can trust.
Bin Ladin has Index Investments...
Now they have found that Bin Laden had investments in the index which is sort of an insurance policy, so that in the invent that a stock loses money you are a lottery winner. Anyway, now we are learning that he was profitting monetarily because he has index investments in Airlines and travel industry and such. So he makes money from our losses...NOT! (that is really what he planned) His assets were just frozen today. That includes any access to his investments as well.
Go USA! We are gonna get em through the pocketbook. The other way we could just shut down these guys is to drive electric cars and save all our fuel for the military. Are you ready...I am ready..Give me an electric car that I can afford and I will buy it. As long as we all make the change other than trucks and Military. We could cut off the need for foreign oil.

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