posted 09-12-2002 03:51 PM PT (US) Ardra" target=_new>Ardra"> Ardra" target=_new>Ardra">
Since the other thread is closed (for whatever reason) and I can't reply I will continue here.
"I am stunned that you posted such a vicious attack on someone you don't know, about a post you misunderstood and then tried to apologise to me 'as a christian' for attacking my spelling. Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible about not judging others? You have given me another reason to despise a religion I used to cherish by your behaviour."
Kat- do you think I would have apologized if I WASN'T a Christian? Seems like I have demonstrated both repentance and being asked to be forgiven. Didn't I apologize for attacking you personally? Does it not matter that I made an effort there?
It's your perogative to forgive me or not. Personally, I have forgiven you, for a couple reasons:
1. What you said did offend me- but it might have come out wrong when you typed it. I say things the wrong way sometimes, too. Happens sometimes.
2. Despite what Ouro has suggested, (that it was an attack on all the west, and therefore your perspective was no different than an American one) you clearly drew the distinction between your nationality and America. So no, you could not see it from an American perspective. That being said, I realize you cannot truly empathize or understand how your comments could be taken as terribly insulting. A shame, but a fact nonetheless.
3. If we avoid politics or moral discussions, I am guessing that you would be quite inoffensive. My wife vouches for you and that is good enough for me. I trust her completely.
Now, if one message board thread, one person can make you hate all Christianity, well, that tells me your mind was already made up long before this posting began.
And Ouroboros, stop being a hypocrite. You deleted that post to stop the infighting. You came up with this lame "joke" response when the board members cried foul.
You are a liberal, and liberals hate free speech. You aren't a bad guy- you have many fine qualities- but you also scare the bejeezus out of me sometimes with your hatred of religion and your ability to argue whatever side suits your fancy. You sound like a typical Leftist to me, most of the time. When you can't win an argument you throw up a shitstorm of diversionary language and you attempt to shift the subject, or change the meaning of the words.
That being said, I still think you have good qualities. I just wish you would wear those on your sleeve instead of tending to say things to me, like, as you put it last night in chat, "I think being evil is sorta cool". My jaw is still hanging from this type of thing, which I've heard come from your mouth (metaphorically speaking) too many times now.
I stick to my guns. I choose a side and stay there. I believe in what I am brave enough to post out for the world to see, and I do not want my words censored.
Did you not give me an opportunity to have my posts deleted before Kat saw them? I refused- I said no, I take responsibility for my words. The implication was that Kat should, too.
And you should take responsibility for a failed attempt at censoring the posts. The Joke explanation does not fly, in my view.
I realize this is your site- and you have the Right, and perogative, to delete my posts, my username, and so forth. If you feel the need to do it, do it.
But you should publish a disclaimer if you are going to censor content.
I am sorry if I have only made things worse. But I just plain did not believe your "joke" was intended as such. I think you were protecting your web site and ensuring that people would not leave the site due to message board arguments, which are really inevitable on any message board. Again, that is your right to do so.
And I have no doubt that you will have a lot to say about this in your defense. That too is your right.
After all, this is your web site.